Smiley Face Killers Theory

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:04 pm

As I look over some of the cases, several questions are coming to mind.

Why these particular victims?
What is the common denominator(s) that connects each victim that is not obvious?

Is it something from their backgrounds? Some possible organization, school society,or fraternity that each of these victims have some connection to?

Is the killer a possible victim of such organization? If so, revenge?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:12 pm

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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:36 pm

Open invitation to smiley face killer investigators.
I have been informed by lawmanconfidential that he is willing to evaluate case files and extend his forensic expertise to Retired Detectives Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte, law enforcement and legitimate private investigators involved in the smiley face killers investigations.

Lawman, I realize you’re extremely busy, have any legitimate investigators responded to your invitation?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:18 am

Hey Ratman are you now thinking the killer is a woman?
I see a book refuting foul play has been self published. Anyone read it?
http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2009/05/06/news/z00book0506.txt
http://www.amazon.com/Smiley-Face-Killers-Coincidence-Conspiracy/dp/1442146648/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241669110&sr=8-1

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:29 am

I wouldn't rule out the possiblity that the killer could be a woman.

Everyone always assumes a serial killer is a male. There have been a few female serial killers, though it's very uncommon.

Put a female in the killer's place and it changes everything.

I've been asking myself a lot of questions and trying to look at this at many different angles.

I still have a lot of research to do, but I have come up with some dozies on theories!

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:45 am

Hi Guys!

I am not a highly revered, professional law enforcement agent - I just have an overly developed sense of curiosity and imagination and, of course, an opinion. I haven't read very much about SFK (I'm fascinated but lacking time) like you guys have but..

I have always thought that this is the work of a serial killer/killers. I never thought it was a series of coincidences.

I think this could somehow be related to the Watchmen comic book series written in the mid 1980's. They are 12 comics written about the dark side of superheroes. One superhero is found dead and the events that follow results in the destruction of half of NY and a fragile world peace. It is
set in an alternative world but sometimes crosses over to reality (like the Vietnam War).

The series was written as a novel and is now being released as a movie "Watchmen". The logo of the Watchmen series is a large blood stained smiley face, the key symbol that runs throughout the series and is associated with the murders. It is supposedly the symbol of a homicidal clown that follows the deconstruction of the superhero. It's rather complicated, to me any way, but it makes more sense when you read about it. There are themes running through the Watchmen, the author's other comic's etc. that hint of the SFK.

If there were any association between the two then you could imagine the scenario of a bunch of loner-type teenagers meeting at a comic book convention in the 1980's and staying together for the past twenty years or so in order to reach their goal, whatever that would be. I did read that in one area three young men had father's who were policemen and the letters of the cities spelled COPS. I'm rambling now because I haven't really formulated this myself - I'm just throwing out the idea.

wikipedia.org/wiki/watchmen tells about the Watchmen.
you can see trailer of the movie at watchmenmovies@warnerbrothers.com
If you google "Watchmen" you'll find lots of info.

I have to go now. I just took my straightjacket out of the dryer and I'm going on a little journey!

4myinfo

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:51 pm

I agree there is no reason a female could not be involved , also SFK would have been at an age to have read the comic books and is definitely involved in some kind of fantasy and when the fantasy is not enough, SFK acts it out. Probably has video of the torture and kills. I remember with Malvo the white van never really existed as claimed by witnesses. But SFK would need some kind of mobile crime scene, a van would work well for this and one has been reported. SFK could be in any occupation involving use of a van or cargo van.
I am not sure about all of the graffiti and would like to know what was found where. I have removed some assumed victims from the list as not likely.

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:18 am

I have heard from a few of the reports that a cargo van is involved. If so, then it makes me wonder about something.

What if the killer is connected to each school via sales or maybe even delivery. The killer travels along the interstate and it might explain the east,west,north,south pattern.

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:05 am

I am more focused on the east west movement. I am not sure about the graffiti. I think it would be easier to drug someone in a bar anonymously, than to pick them up and do so after a party. The bar scenario seems more predictable. I think SFK was choked as a form of punishment or control as a child, possibly held underwater. I am thinking it was a very harsh and controlled environment. SFK takes a lot of care not to be seen. Why? Bank robbers walk into banks with cameras galore and no mask. Is this someone that would be widely recognized? Not a celebrity, simply someone known to a large number of people.

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:26 am

justlogic wrote:

I am more focused on the east west movement. I am not sure about the graffiti. I think it would be easier to drug someone in a bar anonymously, than to pick them up and do so after a party. The bar scenario seems more predictable. I think SFK was choked as a form of punishment or control as a child, possibly held underwater. I am thinking it was a very harsh and controlled environment. SFK takes a lot of care not to be seen. Why? Bank robbers walk into banks with cameras galore and no mask. Is this someone that would be widely recognized? Not a celebrity, simply someone known to a large number of people.

When you said it could be someone known to a large number of people, it makes me think the SFK is someone who does some kind of business with each school. Someone who is well known on campus.

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:25 pm

Right, SFK could be a contractor of supplies for the schools the cities county's or states, or even some kind of traveling DJ in the college bar circuit. The list is long, but I think the minute a photo hit the news asking people to call with information, the phones lines would start to light up.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:58 pm

I found this, an unidentified male reported last seen alive running in the turtle creek seemed intoxicated near the city of Clinton WI 10-16-94. Remains were found 11-26-95.
See below Rock County unidentified.
http://www.missingpersons.doj.wi.gov/missingkids/unidentified/

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:15 am

justlogic wrote:

Right, SFK could be a contractor of supplies for the schools the cities county's or states, or even some kind of traveling DJ in the college bar circuit. The list is long, but I think the minute a photo hit the news asking people to call with information, the phones lines would start to light up.

I never even thought about a traveling DJ! It would make sense because a lot of them travel in a cargo van.

Going along with that line of thought, maybe the killer is in a college rock band, playing at the bars college students frequent the most.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:13 pm

That could be but, all I really meant was. SFK could be in any occupation exposing them to a large number of people and drives a cargo van. That would be a long list of occupations. SFK may carry equipment packages or samples. It could be a fleet vehicle with no logos or removable ones. I don't recall any reports of logos or DOT numbers, just WI plates. And I don't know how reliable that is. I am going to email the Rock County Sheriff's dept and see what, if anything, I can find out about the unidentified male. I don't know how that inquiry will be received and treated as I have never requested this type of information before. I will report what I find back here.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:48 am

Go the the NamUs website and do a search of unidentified white males in WI IL MN MI NY any state you like. What do you notice in WI.
The killer evolved from some where. They didn’t just wake up one day grab, a can of spray paint and start killing college kids. I think all theories are valid and deserve to be worked by those wishing to work them, how else can you get to the truth? Any thoughts?

https://identifyus.org/

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:59 pm

Has anybody ever watched "The Mentalist"?

There is a recurring storyline of a serial killer called Red John. His calling card at a crime scene is a smiley face drawn with the victim's blood.