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preciousnpink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

How would a person find out if a patrol car is equipt with an in-car video camera? I believe I was falsely arrested and that if there is video it would prove my case.
gary
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

preciousnpink
as far as i know all police patrol cars in us have a video camers but i am from uk so i could be wrong
preciousnpink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That's what I thought, too, but when I was searching for information on how to axcess in-car video I got the impression that these cameras are fairly scarce. That is why I am trying to find information on how to find and axcess this information.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There should be video cameras in every police car however they are expensive and not all departments / cars have video equipment. . Call the department in question and ask if their units are so equipped without revealing your agenda at this point.

You have a right through discovery to request any tape and unless you know your way around the legal system it may be best to make a request through an attorney.

Your success will depend on many factors including if the police vehicle in fact had video equipment, if it was working, if it captured and recorded the event and if the tape still exists.

Good luck and keep us updated.
lawmanconfidential
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

WHAT DO MEAN "YOU THINK?" I was going to tell you that "I KNOW" based on my own restraint integrity & personal experiences including being a member of one of the most elite tactical emergency response teams! An Officer with a hand held Camera is/has been standard operational procedure to Any and all Emergency response And Planned Use of Force bY our Statewide D.O.C. In Prisons,Jails,Court rooms and remands,violations & arrests IN PUBLIC STREETS ,PARKS OFFICES .& Private hOMES IN ONE OF THE FORENSIC & TACTICAL GIZMO MAGS I GET HAS MANY CAMERAS S.O.P. IN ALICE,& OTHER TACTICAL VESTS & HELMETS!


LET ME ASK YOU???


I HAVE A SET UP I WAS CONSIDERING OFFERING THROUGH MY DBA: "411 FORENSICS CI3D""CRITICAL INCIDENT INTERVENTION INTELLIGENCE DOCUMENTATION


PARTICULARLY IN CASES ALLEGING "DOMESTIC VIOLENCE" (WHICH LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY ARE AT A HIGH RISK OF BEING VICTIMS ,BUT ALSO IN CASES OF CITY BUSINESS LIABILITY ELDER,CHILD ABUSE
A THOUGHT OF APPLYING FOR A CITY CONTRACT
A BLUE LIGHT PERMIT AND PAYING SOME "EAGER"
ASPIRING INVESTIGATORS/C.J STUDENTS I CAN TRAIN AS NOTARY'S AND DOCUMENT INCIDENTS FROM A TRAINED 3RD PARTY PERSPECTIVE BUT IN DOWN TIME DOCUMENT ILLEGAL/2ND RESIDENCES OF s-e-x OFFENDERS! ILLEGAL DUMPERS OR CODE VIOLATIONS! BUT PERSONALLY IT ISN'T MY CUP OF TEA! BUT I THINK ITS DOABLE!

BUT GETTING BACK TO YOUR PLIGHT IF YOU DON'T KNOW! WELL IGNORANCE ,INTOXICATION AND FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH A LAWFUL L ORDER
DASH CAM S ,HELMET CAMS, VEST CAMS SPYNCTER CAMS!! ARE FOR THE MOST PART "MYOPIC" LITERALLY AND EVEN WITH THAT GOOD OLD PILLAR JUSTICE RODNEY KING "ADMITTED" YOU RUN FROM THE POLICE (ENDANGERING LIFE & PROPERTY!) YOU EXPECTED AN booty BEATING DID THOSE GUYS LOOSE THEIR HEADS ?? PERHAPS BUT AGAIN I NEVER RESPECT PUNKS COPS OR THUGS! I BEEN ASSAULTED NUMEROUS TIMES AND ONCE THE DUDE WAS CUFFED /SUBDUED THAT WAS IT! THE ONLY THING I SAW WRONG WITH THAT VIDEO AS A PR 24 INSTRUCTOR THAT POLICE BATON REQUIRES A SPECIAL PERMIT AND IT IS NEVER TO BE USED LIKE A GOLF CLUB! BUT WE ARE TRAINED TO COMMAND (IF PAIN /FORCE IS USED WITH OUT VERBALIZATION OR A CLEAR "LAWFUL ORDER" IS A CRIME ASSAULT & ACTUALLY DEFINED AS "TORTURE"
BUT IF I AM TELLING A GUY WHO'S HANDS MAY OR MAY NOT BE VISIBLE "STOP" "DOWN" "DOWN" AND HE IS NOT LISTENING "I AM SCARED" BECAUSE MY INSTINCTS ARE TELLING ME I SHOULD BE! THIS DUDE ISN'T RATIONAL (THE WHOLE SCENE ISN'T RATIONAL !) I AM IN FEAR FOR MY SAFETY AND MY FELLOW OFFICERS AND YOUR WIFE,CHILD OR MOTHER WHO MAY BE IN ONE OF THE VEHICLES STUCK,STRUCK OR STRANDED! AND RIGHT NOW I AM 46 YEARS OLD AND RETIRED FROM THE CUMULATIVE BEATING MY BODY TOOK! BECAUSE WHAT THE CAMERAS DON'T ALWAYS SHOW IS THAT EVERY TIME YOU TAKE A GUY DOWN! YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN CONTROL ,LOOSING IS NOT AN OPTION! AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHO MAY BE JUMPING IN FROM BEHIND! BUT YOU LAND ON YOUR KNEES ON CONCRETE ASPHALT! IDEALLY ON HIS BACK BUT YOUR ELBOWS WRISTS ETC. AND FOR EVERY FIGHT I WAS IN I WAS ON MY KNEES DOING CPR, OPENING AN AIRWAY OR CRAWLING IN A CAR! NEEDLE STREWN HALLWAY! 10 YEARS AGO I WOULD BE OUT RUNNING 4-10 MILES AND HITTING THE GYM FOR AN HOUR! "TEACHING" PROPER DEFENSIVE TECHNIQUES!
I AM GOING TO START DOING SOME 10 LB CURLS AND TRY TO RIDE MY BIKE A MILE OR 2 I HOPE I WILL BE ABLE TO EASE INTO A WORK OUT ROUTINE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DROP DEAD OF AN M.I OR STROKE AT 50! I WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE MY SKILLS TO HELP PEOPLE AND AT LEAST GET TO ENJOY A WHOLE DECADE! MY POINT IS I WANT TO HEAR YOUR STORY AND IF IT HAS MERIT I'LL EVEN HELP YOU IF YOU HELP ME!
SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS I AM TRYING!
One more thing in regards to Gary s UK IRONICALLY THE UK IS KNOWN FOR ALL OF THERE BIG BROTHER STREET,METRO,TRAFFIC & PUBLIC CAMS! THAT CAN FOLLOW PEOPLE AND WITH HIGH TECH LAS VEGAS C-A-S-I-N-0 EYE TOPOGRAPHY /& ID SYSTEMS THEY HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO TRACK ANY CITIZEN ,POLITICIAN, CELEBRITY ANY ONE CAN BE TRACKED THROUGHOUT LONDON FROM SHOP TO SHOP PURCHASES,CONTACTS,LIAISONS,ADD INFRARED, TELEPHOTO,& AUDIO ENHANCING!
THEY CAN TARGET AND CONTROL ANYONE! A GREAT WAY TO POLICE PREDATORS & TERRORISTS BUT YOU KNOW AS MUCH AS I LOOK AT MY UTILIZATION OF INFORMATION AS A CRAFT I DON'T BELIEVE IN SNOOPING,SPYING OR PRYING W/O JUST CAUSE! AND TO ME THAT PERTAINS TO ANYTHING A CONSENTING ADULT WANTS TO TAKE, PLACE, OR PUT IN ANY ORIFICE THEY CHOOSE ALONG AS IT IS CONSENSUAL, (ANIMALS,MINORS,RETARDS OR CHEMICALLY IMPAIRED ARE OFF LIMITS) BUT IF JACK O WANTS TO TAKE ALL THE DEMORAL MORPHINE , XANAX 40! (I NEVER QUITE GOT THE BENZO THING TILL I TOOK ABOUT 4 OF THOSE LITTLE BASTARDS ! I GOT OFF DUTY POPPED ONE NOTHING! GOT OUT THE SHOWER A COUPLE MORE STILL ZIP?? I WENT TO BED I GUESS GOT UP TO TAKE A LEAK?? WELL THERE IS NO GUESSING !! BECAUSE I WAS DEFIANTLY MID STREAM WHEN THE NEXT THING I KNOW MY GIRL FRIEND SEEMED TO HAVE BURST IN THE BATHROOM ASKING ME WHAT THE F WAS I DOING??? IS SWEARING AT ME AND SHE TURNED ON ALL THE LIGHTS IN THE BED ROOM !AND S.O.B! I WAS PISSING IN HER CLOSET!
NOW THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I EVER TOOK XANAX!
THAT WOULD BE A HELL OF A VIDEO!
SO WATCHMAN TO COIN THE PHRASE THAT ACTOR SAID WHEN THEY MADE THAT COP FLICK BASED ON YOUR EXPLOITS
"A MAN HAS GOT TO KNOW HIS LIMITATIONS "
DO YOU MEAN TODAY'S MAN NEEDS A CAMERA TO GUIDE HIS CONSCIOUS??
BUT "INTENT" COUNTS FOR A LOT! AND A CAMERA/VIDEO CAN SHOW MITIGATING & AGGRAVATING FACTORS!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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A BLUE LIGHT PERMIT



Hey LM

Blue light permits have different meanings in different areas.

In some area a blue light permit is issued to volunteer fire fighters and others to Kmart for their blue light special.
Now I know your not a fire fighter and Ct. does have a number of Kmart's...... So what is it Question Very Happy
lawmanconfidential
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Missed that one! Blue Light permits are also issued to Officers /members on Emergency response teams. K-9 OFF DUTY PERSONAL CARS ,VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER PERSONAL CARS & Private Public Safety Security Vehicles & specialized staff who don't have a Dept. Vehicle or others who need a rapid response! Blue Lights w/o a siren or accompanied by Red light which is for PERSONAL VEHICLES OF VOL. FIRE BRASS/COMMANDERS & Official State or Municipal Law Enforcement/Public Safety E.M.S ALL ARE ALLOWED RED LIGHTS & MOST HAVE SECONDARY BLUE OR EMS & FIRE HAVE WHITE TOO! ONLY OFFICIAL POLICE, STATE TROOPER/ D.O.C CRUISERS/PATROL VEHICLES DISPLAY BLUE & RED LIGHT BARS EMS & AMBULANCES! RED WITH 1. WHITE LIGHT AND FIRE ENGINES & TRUCKS AND CARS (BATTALION, CHIEF,COMMAND EMERGENCY HAZ MAT ETC USUALLY HAVE HALF WHITE & HALF RED?? THERE YOU GO!
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE THE LAW STATES VEHICLES MUST GRANT RIGHT OF WAY PULL TO THE RIGHT ON BOTH SIDES & STOP FOR AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE DISPLAYING A "RED" LIGHT &/OR A SIREN AND ANY COMBINATION OF THE OTHER COLORS SO SOME OLD COP CARS & SOME D.OC. VEHICLES HAD BLUE LIGHTS BUT ALSO HAVE SIRENS! A BLUE LIGHT ALONE IS FOR COURTESY ! I LIVE LESS THAN A HALF MILE OVER THE CITY LINE IN A SUBURBAN TOWN THAT HAS VOLUNTEER FIREMEN SURE I KNOW I DON'T HAVE TO PULL OVER LET ALONE STOP BUT I DO! THOSE MEN & WOMAN DON'T HAVE TO RUN INTO A STRANGERS BURNING HOUSE BUT THEY DO! IT AMAZES ME! HOW NONE OF THE PRETENTIOUS DORKS ON THE STREET CAN BE BOTHERED MOVING THERE LEXUS'S AUDI'S OR BMW'S ON THE SANDY SHOULDERS OF THE STREETS! PATHETIC!
SO I HOPE THIS SATISFY S YOUR VOID ...DO YOU MISS IT A LITTLE? I GOT SO MUCH OF IT OUT OF MY SYSTEM ...I IMAGINE IT WAS A LOT HARDER IN YOUR DAY HAVING TO CRANK THAT SIREN I IMAGINE YOU COULD ONLY GO ON SO MANY CODE III CALLS OR PURSUE A GANGSTER SO FAR TILL YOUR ARM GOT TIRED!
gary
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

lawman
this is the site for blue lightt use in the uk
http://detectiveforums.com/forums/link.php?url=http://www.ukemergency.co.uk/
when you are on the main page go down to see the blue light and that will give you all the law for blue light use in the uk
RATMAN
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

LM,

I think you need to pop some Xans after that lil rant! Laughing

I know what you mean about the dolts that don't pull over for the volunteer firefighters. I have an Uncle that is a retired volunteer firefighter and he used to get so mad at people that wouldn't pull over or get the Hell outta the way when he was responding to a call.

Then again, the small town we lived in didn't really have very many places in town where you could pull off the road when the FD came thru.

The town I live in now, when the local PD is running silent in response to a robbery in progress, idiots would actually block them at intersections because they refuse to get out of the way.
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